Overview of the Lighting Energy Efficiency in Parking (LEEP) Campaign (Text Version)

Saving energy from high-efficiency parking lot and parking structure lighting technology is a proven opportunity for commercial buildings to cut operating costs. Case studies have shown that implementing this strategy can save up to 70 percent on energy costs and 90 percent on maintenance costs. The Lighting Energy Efficiency in Parking (LEEP) Campaign is a collaboration to help businesses take advantage of this savings opportunity. The campaign is led by the Building Owners and Managers Association (BOMA), Green Parking Council (GPC), and the International Facility Management Association (IFMA). The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) supports LEEP by providing implementation resources, including specification documents and technical assistance, to LEEP campaign participants via DOE's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory. Read more about and join the LEEP campaign here.

This webinar was an introduction to the LEEP campaign and a review of strategies that businesses have used to implement high-efficiency lighting technologies in parking applications. LEEP campaign organizers discussed the campaign, how to get involved, resources available to participants, and recognition for organizations that achieved the highest energy savings. The webinar also featured two case study examples of businesses that have implemented high-efficiency parking lighting projects. Speakers discussed their projects in detail, including energy and financial results and strategies for overcoming barriers to implement this technology.

Below is the text version of "Overview of the Lighting Energy Efficiency in Parking (LEEP) Campaign," originally presented on September 27, 2012. In addition to this text of the audio, you can listen to a recording of the webinar (WMV 78.7 MB)

Andres Potes:
Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Webinar for the lighting and energy efficiency parking campaign, for the LEEP campaign. Everyone right now is in mute, but if you could please try using the chat box to do a quick audio check, can you please type "Yes," if you can hear me, it would be great. Okay, great. Looks like everyone can hear me.

So welcome. This webinar is brought to you by the Department of Energy, and along with collaboration with BOMA International, the Green Parking Council, and IFMA. And my name is Andres Potes. I'm with the Commercial Building Energy Alliance and the Department of Energy. And today we're gonna be going over the next hour and a half to talk about our LEEP campaign.

So the agenda for today, we're gonna give some introductions. I'm gonna introduce you to a broad overview of the campaign. I'm gonna introduce to our speakers today. We have the three organizers from BOMA, IFMA, and the Green Parking Council.

Michael Myer, who's with the Department of Energy's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory is gonna give an overview with some more details on the campaign. And then we're gonna have two case studies, one from Kimco Realty Corporation with Nate Mitten, and the other one, the University of Central Florida, Alexandra Kennedy. Kimco has a project with their parking lots of and the University of Central Florida has a project that they would like to talk about with a parking structure. And then the last ten minutes, we'll go over questions.

So first, let me give you an overview of the campaign. So this is an effort between these organizations to encourage commercial building owners, managers, parking garage and lot owners and managers to take advantage of an opportunity to save energy through high-efficiency parking light and technology, parking lots and parking structures. The campaign is organized by BOMA International, Green Parking Council, and the International Facility Management Association. The Department is the campaign technical advisor.

To participate, you have to sign up onto the website and agree to at least evaluate your portfolio, trying to identify potential parking lot or parking structure projects that you can apply high-efficiency lighting technology to, of course, where it is feasible and cost-effective. At the end of the year, the campaign runs through the calendar year. Projects with notable energy savings are gonna receive awards from the campaign, and the campaign's goal is to have 100 million square feet of parking structure or parking lot space use roughly one third less energy, and so this estimate comes out to around 51 million kilowatt hours savings, roughly equivalent to 4,500 homes or the annual greenhouse gas emissions of around 7,000 passenger units.

So now let me start off by introducing the campaign organizers. Karen Penafiel is the BOMA International vice presidency of advocacy codes and standards. She manages BOMA's advocacy programs, and oversees their building codes and standard efforts. She's the lobbyist for the organization, works with congress and federal agencies on a wide range of issues in the commercial real estate industry. She's the lead on energy sustainability issues for BOMA for the past decade. She is author of two guidance docs on electricity and deregulation. She's also an author of BOMA, the Green Leaf Guides. She's a graduate of Hamilton College where she has a Bachelor of Arts in Government.

Paul Wessel is with the Green Parking Council. He is the executive director. The Green Parking Council is a nonprofit organization, and they work to promote green parking practices through certification, and credential programs, open source standards, professional leadership, educational development training for organizations and individuals in the parking industry. They work at the intersection of parking green building, same technology, real world technology, smart grade infrastructure, urban planning and sustainability mobility. Paul has an MS in Urban Policy Analysis management from the New School, and a BA in history from Wesleyan.

And last, Marina Badoian-Kriticos. She is the Director of Sustainability for IFMA, and she oversees their strategic and tactical sustainability issues. She also works closely with IFMA sustainability committee to monitor and integrate legislation and technology trends in sustainability.

Let me go over the other speakers really quickly, and then I'll turn it back to the organizers to say a few words. The other speakers are Nate Mitten from Kimco. Nate is the manager of energy serves at Kimco, and Kimco is the owner of the largest fleet of neighborhood and community shopping centers in the US. Nate implements a series of energy related initiatives at Kimco. He holds a PhD and MS in mechanical and aerospace engineering from the University of Florida, and a BS from Messiah College.

Alexandra Kennedy is joining us from University of Central Florida. She works at their Department of Sustainability and Energy Management. And I'm just gonna go over quickly Michael Myer. He is joining us from the Department of Energy's Pacific Northwest National Lab. He supports the Commercial Building Energy Alliances at Department of Energy, along with a couple of other programs — the Solid-State Lighting Program and Appliance Standards.

Okay. So now I'm gonna turn it over back to Karen to tell a little bit about BOMA. Give me a second. I have to un-mute her here. Karen, you're on.

Karen Penafiel:
Great, thanks, Andres. On behalf of the Building Owners and Managers Association International, we're extremely pleased to be partnering with the Green Parking Council International Facility Management Association, the Commercial Building Energy Alliance, and the Department of Energy to launch this important effort.

BOMA's members are the owners and managers of commercial buildings, from international; it's an international federation of more than 100 local associations and affiliated organizations. Founded in 1907, our 17,000 members own or manage more than 9 billion square feet of commercial property. Our mission is to enhance the human, intellectual, and physical assets of the commercial real estate industry through advocacy, education, research, standards, and information.

For the past decade, BOMA has worked to assist and motivate the real estate industry to take voluntary staff to reduce their energy consumption. Part of our strategy has been to identify barriers and remove them, or find ways to work around them.

Five years ago, BOMA launched its seven-point challenge, which challenged the real estate industry to voluntarily reduce its energy consumption by 30 percent across our portfolio by 2012. The program has been a huge success, and we believe it has helped move markets. But the seven-point challenged focused mostly on the building itself and the building system, and not parking lots and structures.

The LEEP Campaign represents that important next step. Lighting technologies have come a long way, and retrofits can yield significant savings, both in energy costs as well as maintenance costs. By combining the technical resources of the Department of Energy of and the National Labs, with the memberships that BOMA, IFMA and the Green Parking Council, we can collectively provide innovative tools and solutions that will truly transform the marketplace and save a substantial amount of energy and money, and through the LEEP campaign and through the participation of all the market leaders participating on this Webinar, we can help identify and share best practices and sciences.

BOMA International is very excited to be a part of this effort, and we can't wait to see what all of us can accomplish by working together to encourage lighting retrofits across our nation's parking facility.

Jeff Cramer:
Great. Thanks, Karen. Now I'll turn it over to Paul Wessel. Paul, give me a second. Let me un-mute you here. Okay, Paul, you're on.

Paul Wessel:
Good afternoon, everybody. The Green Parking Council is delighted to be here today. We're a national, nonprofit organization, developing and dispersing green parking practices in and around the parking industry. We're funded by partners in and around that industry, but not enough of them, given all the projects we are eager to engage in, but our current partners include real estate owners, private parking operators, and technology manufacturers.

Relevant to today's discussion, we're honored to have the partnerships support of Lutera Systems, which is the developer of energy-efficient lighting control systems for HID lighting, and also of OSRAM Sylvania, a producer of lighting solutions for over 100 years, and started, I learned today, by a guy who recycles and rebuilt burnt-out light bulbs, so they appear to have sustainability in their blood. That was great to learn about.

So simply put, what the Green Parking Council is seeking to do is transform parking from part of the problem to an active agent in creating the solution of sustainable urban mobility in a world where by 2050, we expect 70 percent of the world's population to be living in cities. And our goal here in the LEEP campaign is to promote, to inspire, insight, accelerate, pick the verb you want, the adoption of the highest quality lighting in America's parking garages and parking lots, with the lowest possible electric usage and costs, and to do so cost effectively.

We see this as an extraordinary opportunity for collaboration, peer-to-peer learning, and technological innovation, and we recognize and have learned that no one size fits all here. Different technologies work better in cold and warm regions of the country, high-end commercial buildings, shopping malls, and hospitals often have different needs than the general market.

Who pays the electric bill? What's the local rates are, what the local incentives are? Who owns the lighting fixtures? All those things matter in specific situations. Whether there's a three-year ROI, a five-year ROI, who pays the capital cost, how the improvement is being financed. All of these are issues and opportunities we hope to explore over the next year with everybody.

We're struck that there's a lot of talk these days about green jobs from the green market, but energy-efficient lighting and parking garages and lots really is a textbook example. There are competitive manufacturers, installers, parking operators and owners in rapidly evolving technology. So we're really excited about the possibility for collaboration here, and really believe that it will move the adoption of high-performance energy lighting technologies forward.

Almost to a person, whether owner, manager, or parking operator, when I talk to them about the campaign, they look at me and they say, "Yeah, I really need to get my arms around this issue. I just haven't been able to focus on it," and so here's their opportunity. So on behalf of the GPC, we look forward to learning, working, and providing better lighting and saving energy with BOMA, IFMA, the Department of Energy, and everybody else who's on the line today. Thank you.

Andres Potes:
Thanks, Paul. Now Marina. Marina?

M. Badoian-Kriticos:
Hi, everyone. Yes, good afternoon as well. Thanks, Andres, and Karen, and Paul. We are pleased to join our colleague organization — excuse me, organizers of this campaign. The International Facility Management Association, or IFMA, is an international association for professional faculty managers. The association's members are represented by 127 chapters and 16 councils worldwide, and our mission is to advance the facility management profession by providing exceptional services, products, resources, and opportunities.

One of our most important goals is to provide education resource and to prepare industry stakeholders by keeping them up to date on business trends and future developments that will impact the built environment and their managerial decisions. Our annual trends and global job task analysis have continually identified sustainability as a number one trend, expected to have greatest impact on the future of the built environment.

And so in that, we see this campaign as an excellent opportunity to provide industry stakeholders with resources and programs to help to develop and implement plans to sustainably manage their assets, related to the campaign. And as this campaign does provide an opportunity for industry stakeholders to reduce the consumption of energy through every savings devices and systems, as well as taking advantage of savings opportunities from high-efficient lighting solutions and parking facilities. We also appreciate the opportunity to work with our colleagues to be able to share information that's received, and especially through DOE. The technical assistance that will be required to do so successfully.

From IFMA's perspective, facility management professionals have long been with concerned with and engaged in the environmental aspects of the facility that they operated, especially from the perspective of an energy conservation and high-performance buildings. And so for us, advocating efficient and responsible use of the planet's finite resources and workplace applications, and that sustainability initiatives are also good for business is key.

So our goal in participating in this program is to provide facility professionals and relevant stakeholders along with our colleagues with access to educational, informational, and the networking resources that are geared towards managing these assets sustainably. We're delighted to participate in this program, and excited to work with our colleagues in this endeavor.

Andres Potes:
Great, thanks, Marina. So before I turn it over to Michael here, I just wanted to answer a couple of questions on logistics. Yes, both the slides and the webinar recording will be available the Department of Energy website, and on the LEEP campaign's website, which if you haven't visited yet, it's www.leepcampaign.org..

Okay. Next we have Michael on the line, and we're gonna switch over to just talk some more details about the campaign, what it means, and how you get involved. So, Michael, go ahead.

Michael Myer:
Thank you, Andres. The ultimate goal we discussed earlier is to save energy in parking spaces. Parking structures or garages, which are used interchangeably, well as parking lots are empty a fair amount of the time, and they use a fair amount of energy at certain sites. And the whole point is to save energy.

The target is 30 percent compared to ASHRAE standard 90.1, 2010, and which actually translates to be more than 50 percent compared to earlier codes — earlier versions of Standard 90 or IEC or Title 24. The exact values differ by what type of parking space you are in and whether it's a parking lot or a parking structure, but that's just a pretty good guideline of what the values look like.

Additionally, it encourages the use of controls. It is moving beyond the LEEP campaign and is trying to move just beyond just looking at installed watts and really go after energy and so it actually looks at energy use kilowatt-hours per square foot, rather than just watts. Many energy codes focus on watts and they are really leaving a lot of controls and additional savings on the table by not focusing on that.

A number of lighting technologies that are new and more efficient than existing and conventional technologies last longer than traditional conventional technologies. And the longer the technology lasts, the fewer times they have to be maintained. And every time someone has to go out, especially in the parking lot and shut down part of the parking lot and get up off your truck and raise the lighting, saves money for the site. And so we're finding a positive cost-effectiveness through deferred maintenance savings.

We're also encouraging not just energy savings, but also good lighting practices, good color quality, good lighting uniformity, certain minimum amounts of light to encourage user satisfaction. Once again, here is the URL for the LEEP campaign at the bottom of the screen.

And then moving into the next slide, this is some of the more specifics. So the campaign goal, "Increase the number of parking lots and parking structures that deliver effective lighting." AS we said before, our goal is 100 million square feet of parking structure or parking lot. That is a large number, but in terms of the United States potential for parking lots and parking structures, it is not as large as that. It actually quickly adds up if you think about your site or the sites you might visit in the common day. Many parking structures, if they're three or four floors, quickly can get up to a million square feet by themselves. Some parking lots are 200,000 to 300,000 square feet. So if you think about all the different buildings you visit in a day or in a week, there's a lot of parking out there.

We also want to document best practices and resulting energy savings. Recognize successes. That's the key thing is that too often that we hear that people can do it, but they're not really talking about how they're doing it or what their values are. They just heard someone replaced their lighting. And we found that by recognizing successes, most energy saved, or what the value they're getting, people can start overcoming their own internal hurdles, whether it's the cost effectiveness or just change in paradigm to a new technology.

And that leads into what I was saying previously. We also want to help companies make the business case. We do recognize that a change in lighting cost money because it is replacing exiting equipment or a change in design when a structure or a lot is being developed, and it might require additional cost-effective measures to be assessed 'cause of a higher initial cost, but a lower lifetime cost, or different economics.

So the LEEP campaign, which I'll walk through in a second some of the additional resources, that can help make the business case. As Andres pointed out, the 100 million square feet of energy, we roughly estimated that to be about 51 million kilowatt hours, or roughly the use of 4,500 homes or 7,000 passenger cars of greenhouse gas emissions, all good goals.

Moving into the next slide, these are some of the resources and the process of the way the campaign works. So this is a pretty standard matrix. On the left-hand side, we have three parts, the description, resources, and important dates. And I'll make sure I touch on each of the important dates in a second. In the vertical columns, we have evaluate, commit, report, and share and be recognized. So important dates.

Obviously, today is one of them the LEEP campaign officially launches, and the Department of Energy is offering a limited amount of technical assistance through November 2013, so that's about 14 months from now.

The deadline to report energy savings claims is January 2015, so we're looking at about 16 months from now, and then new reports the savings and announcements will be made in February of 2014.

Existing sites that have been built or retrofitted are eligible, but the cutoff date, it has to have occurred after January 1st of 2010. That's partly to do with the energy code. Just can't keep looking too far back. So there are resources throughout each of the different phases. The LEEP website offers many of them. There are campaigns. There are case studies of other parking structures or parking lots. There are also calculators or tools to calculate different elements for you, as well as technical advice, including — and then there's also in the commit phase, there's the CBA specification, which are the Department of Energy, Commercial Building Energy Alliance, specifications for high-efficient lighting, parking lot and parking structure, that is.

There's also a list of financing and incentives. And then they move throughout similar for the report and the share. So pretty much what would you do? Well, you would evaluate. You'd look at your space, your spaces, how many parking lots or how many parking structures you have, think about what type of lighting you have, and whether or not you're considering making a change. Then you'd commit, commit to building one or retrofitting at least one of these with high-efficient lighting that meets above target goals, which are walked through more specifically on the website.

And then, ultimately, you'd report those, the actual energy savings, and share feedback, and then, ultimately, which I'll walk through in a couple slides from now, the awards. There are different ones that will be recognized. Most number of sites, biggest savings, et cetera.

Next slide, please.

All right. Continuing on through the LEEP campaign, the free resources. So one are the CBEA lighting specifications. These are similar end users that developed performance-based specifications for both parking lot and parking structure lighting. The idea is that you can use these specifications, incorporate them into your own design documents, or request for proposal, and many people have done this. Two specific examples are Cleveland Clinic. They have used it in RFPs, as well as Wal-Mart. They have incorporated it into their design documentation and it's a requirement in the design process.

There is a rather thorough tool on the website for incentives and financing. You can sort by your state or your type of site, whether it's parking lot or parking structure, and see all the different incentives available. And it's not just money for fixture, or money for controls. There's a lot of incentives out there now for financing, which is great. Deferred loans, and deferred interest rates, all very nice things.

In addition, there's a lighting project evaluator calculator. This actually helps you calculate your energy use. It takes in account operating hours, watts, and number of fixtures, and actually does them to real-time calculations. It also actually will also compare different lighting systems to see which one would save you possibly more energy over time.

There's over 20 case studies demonstrating different sites from across the country, of who are saving energy in parking lots and parking structures. And there's some really impressive case studies out there. I'm quite surprised at some of the numbers that people are getting down to. At least two parking structures are about .06 watts per square foot, which is a significant reduction compared to traditional practice for a parking structure, which is about .3 watts per square foot, or new standard codes coming.

In addition, you can ask for technical assistance on the LEEP campaign. Again, it is limited total amount that is available, and it is on a first-come, first-serve basis.

Next slide, please.

So I've mentioned beforehand there are some awards. These are recognition for achievement. They will be announced in February of 2014, and they range from different things. We're trying to allow for a lot of different participation, so it's not just one value. So we have, obviously, highest absolute savings at a single site for a retrofit, but also for new construction. Same with highest percentage. Some people might have a small site, but really be able to save a lot of energy, and so that's how they get the highest percentage.

We got them both for retrofit and new construction. Best use of controls is the site using daylight occupancy sensors, and some other additional type of controls. Are they pairing two or three new novel technologies together to really push the envelope? We want to highlight that so that people can learn how to use controls more effectively to save energy.

Obviously, largest number of sites upgraded. So if you have a building portfolio of 100 different fast-food chains and you upgrade 'em all, you would obviously be a contender for that type of category. But we also want to recognize larger portfolio-wide energy savings. So if you have a number of sites that are large, and you retrofit four of 'em, but there are huge numbers of savings, you'd be eligible for that one. And, then, also, again, largest percentage. We want to, again, try to make this competitive so people are looking at many different ways of being recognized through the campaign.

Energy savings results will be announced periodically through 2013 to encourage people to keep going. Retailer or commercial Entity X just retrofitted something and saved so many kilowatt hours, or 20 percent or 40 percent of their existing program. That's the type of announcements we'll be making.

Next slide, please.

So, please, also consider joining us as a supporting organization if that is the type of entity that you represent today listening to this presentation. There's a number of organizations already supporting this. Some of them are utilities. Some of them are energy efficiency organizations. Some of 'em are more from a technology point of view. These organizations spread the LEEP campaign's message to their members and they help recruit participants in the campaign.

This time, I'm going to turn the presentation over to Nate who will be walking us through some of the impressive things that Kimco is doing at their facilities.

Nate Mitten:             
Okay, hello, everybody. On behalf of Kimco, I'd like to thank the campaign organizers and all of those who are involved in putting this Webinar together. We at Kimco are excited about the LEEP campaign and hope to share more results as we make progress in this program, and also learning from others about their endeavors. I'd like to thank everybody for the opportunity to share. And hope that each of you can take something valuable away from our time together.

Next slide, please.

So my presentation is really about lighting controls, not lighting replacements or retrofits. We at Kimco are working in this area as well, but we've really chosen to hone in on controls first. We believe really it's a combination of these things, both high-efficiency lighting fixtures, and sources, along with controls that are gonna get us where we account to be in the future.

I want to go over the agenda briefly, what we're gonna be spending our time on today. I'm gonna share a little bit of background in Kimco. I want to kind of lay out the context in terms of what the array of options are out there for outdoor lighting controls, and what our experience has been with them. I want to give you some details of the design of our system, in terms of how it works, what are the features, and how we go about deploying it. And I'd like to share some results that we've seen so far in terms of performance at our initial ten sites so far, and then quickly go over what our next steps are for rolling out the program.

Next slide, please.

So who is Kimco? We are headquartered in New York, with regional offices across the country, and I am actually in Charlotte, NC as part of the corporate property management team, and we're a team that actually is co-located with our southeast regional office.

Kimco owns and operates a very large and diverse portfolio of shopping centers across the continent. Our tenants include those large big-box retailers that you're familiar with, as well as many — as well down to the mom-and-pop-type restaurants and boutiques.

We've been in the business for a very long time. We're a publically traded real estate investment trust on the New York Stock Exchange. We have had a lot of opportunity to learn, both what to do and what not to do see our sustainability efforts as a significant opportunity to rethink how we both excel in our business, but also consider the larger impacts of our decisions.

As a brief bullet point, adding to this, just to give a little more context, I don't have the hard number, but I did a quick estimate. I think we have probably over 500 million square feet of parking lot space across our portfolio. So we can — we have the ability to make a significant impact, which is part of what makes my role so exciting here.

Next slide, please.

So getting at the purpose of this program that we have essentially called Gateway Building Controls, of which one aspect of that is our Gateway Lighting Controls. And why the focus on outdoor lighting controls? Well, first of all, it's our biggest utility expense, and also, therefore, our biggest opportunity for savings. Additionally, it's very economically attractive in almost all our sites, with approximately 25-percent average savings in a 2- to 4-year simple payback, really depending on the site, how much night lighting we can implement, and what our electricity costs would be.

Fortunately, these numbers, 25 percent in the 2- to 4-year payback are not dependent on incentive dollars, like some lighting retrofit projects may be. And so we see those as really icing on the cake for us, but not a primary consideration in taking on the project.

Beyond the economics, it provides real-time information to our property managers, which enables them to be more effective, meaning less trips to the site to resolve issues, and less wasted time. It also improves the tenant experience by having the lights on when they're supposed to be on, and off when they're supposed to be off. As you can imagine, lights off at night when they're supposed to be on is a significant security issue for us as well as when they're on during the day, it really looks like we don't have a good handle on the management of our sites and we're wasting our tenants' money, and so that's important for us.

And then, finally, lighting controls, like I mentioned, are only one of several aspects of our gateway building controls program, but it's one we wanted to start with. It's being built on Tridium, Niagara's AX platform, which is extremely powerful and flexible. And what this means is that we are seeing this as a stepping stone, and planning for other future applications, including potentially irrigation, sub-metering, video surveillance, and even HVAC, piggybacking off of the same platform.

Next slide, please.

So there are a lot of ways of controlling outdoor lighting, and each has its pros and cons. I want to do a quick review of the common components out there, and share what our experiences have been 'cause we have every one of these at our site. This will provide a backdrop for understanding how we arrived at our current design and approach to this program.

You'll see the three components on the bottom left, the mechanical time clock, below that, the photocell, and above that, an electronic time clock. These are probably the most common components used for our outdoor lighting control. They're all very low cost. They're all easy to install.

The cons would be that they're all prone to user errors, both in terms of the initial setup, as well as the ongoing operation. They're all prone to getting out of calibration over time, and none of them offer remote connection for real-time monitoring or control of the lighting system.

Over on the left-hand side, there's a couple categorical classes that I'd like to just mention. Lighting controls can be installed for either circuit-level control or fixture-level control. Most are wired for circuit-level control, meaning that any time you turn something on and off, you are controlling a group of anywhere from two to ten fixtures or light poles. More than that if you're talking about building lights, such as canopy lights or wall packs. But in terms of parking lot poles, probably around four to six poles per circuit.

So circuit level's much more common, and the benefit there is you have much fewer components to install, but you have much less granularity of control.. For fixture-level, you have very good granularity of control in terms of being able to turn each individual pole on or off. The problem is now you have to install and maintain an individual controller or piece of hardware for each one of those fixtures. That leads to much higher up-front cost and operating costs.

The next category would be as these Web-based controllers are becoming more and more popular to replace the old go-to components on the left, you have proprietary devices, and what we would call open protocol devices. Proprietary devices come from a single vertically integrated provider. And essentially a black box. You don't really know what's going on inside. This gives you low flexibility over the long haul, and a higher risk because you're putting all your eggs in one basket of a service provider and a hardware provider.

Open protocol devices are really combinations of components that speak standard communication protocols. This gives us much more flexibility, as well as lower risk, because there is a national network of controls contractors that can service your system. One of those communication protocols is BACnet. That's why I've listed their logo, and there's others a well.

Next slide, please.

To just quickly explain in basic nuts and bolts of how and outdoor lighting system works and how our control system interfaces with it, I wanted to go over this diagram. It's simplified, but includes all of the primary components you would find at almost any parking lot. Electricity flows through the lighting system, coming in at the electric meter, flowing through the breaker panel, to the contactors. The controls' essentially the light switch that then sends electricity out to the groups of fixtures.

The gateway control panel is essentially a combination of components, including a computer, a small computer, an uninterruptable power supply, and a series of relays that tie into the system in two key locations. It measures the power flowing into the system from the meter via current transducers, and yet it also controls the contactor which takes the place of the photocell in a time clock, sending a small electrical signal to the contact or telling it to close and open, or in many cases, a series of contactors. This is where your overrides and your scheduling take place.

And then, finally, the control panel sends and receives updates to Kimco servers through a cellular Internet connection.

Next slide, please.

I wanted to just go over the features of the system that we've incorporated. On the top left, alarms. These are received via text or e-mail by our property managers automatically from the system. It keeps them informed of what's going on at their site, including power outages, maintenance requirements, and energy performance.

On the top right, the advanced scheduling. This is really the power of the system that is able to drive the energy savings. It gives the system very accurate dusk-to-­dawn operation, rather than relying on a sensor that may get out of calibration. And these times are updated daily. We're also able to offset the on/off time space on, the dust-and-dawn calculations. We're able to provide them an intuitive way of setting up night lighting schedules for certain circuits to stage off at night, and you'll see a significant portion of savings is driven by that fixture.

They can also enter custom schedules. And then, finally, there's a tool that, basically, gives them the estimated energy savings in real time as they make their scheduling adjustments. That immediate feedback we found to be very important in motivating them to optimize the site's performance.

The dashboard on the lower right, this is really, again, for the property managers to get the most out of the system. We want it to be standardized across all of our sites, and we want it to be attractive, intuitive, and accessible from anywhere. Each of our property managers carries and iPad with them, and they can log on and access their dashboards from anywhere that they have a cellular connection.

And then, finally, we have adopted several guiding principles for this program to keep it flexible and expandable. Open and standard communication protocols allow the system to easily integrate with other systems, and then a modular design allows us to build on the system and improve it over time, and integrate it with — to other systems. And then like I mentioned, because of these principles of the open protocols and modular design, we can reliability on a large network of providers, and not be stuck with our eggs in one basket.

Next slide, please.

So this is a screen print of our dashboard. This is really the catalyst that enables the property managers to truly glean the value out of the systems. And this is available to them via PC or their iPad. Just to quickly highlight a few things, you'll have a header or — we have a header across the top of the site to give the site name and the weather. — current weather at the site, as well as on the far right-hand corner. They the current times at the site, as well as the astronomical sunset and sunrise time.

Then we have a large summary, those three indicators across the top of the screen, quickly gives them important information about whether or not all systems are good to go, or whether or not there's something that hey heed to dig into. And this would be in addition to the text and e-mail notification that I mentioned already.

Below that, you see the site diagram. Many Web-based lighting control systems don't provide an actual to-scale just like graphic like this. And we believe that this was important for them to se they make scheduling adjustments, as they override their lights to see what's going on at the site. And you'll see each of the fixtures is labeled according to the group that that fixture belongs to, and that's important because when it comes to overriding the lights for maintenance purposes or whatnot as well as scheduling their lights, over on the left-hand side, under lighting controls, they make those decisions on a per-group basis. So if they choose to override the lights, they would use the light switch icon. And you'll see in this case, that Group A has been overridden which is indicated by the light bulb being lit up, the light switch being in the on position, and the actual graphic showing that the lights have been lit for all features labeled A.

And this would be the same for the other groups as well. If they want to change schedules, they would click on the calendar icon for that group, and there would be dropdown menu that would give them a series of predefined schedules, be it dusk-to-dawn operation or a schedule with a night lighting mode where it would turn off from say 1:00 AM to 5:00 AM in the morning, or the ability to implement custom schedules.

Now at the bottom, you'll have — oh, stepping back for a sec, above the lighting control, you'll the see the energy forecast section. This is what I mentioned where this percentage reduction and cost savings will update dynamically with their scheduling designs. So that gives them the feedback they need to see how their decisions are impacting the performance of the site.

And then, at the bottom, you'll have a series of  links that provide additional functionality.

Next slide, please.

I wanted to just share a few things in terms of how these projects get implemented. Beyond the technology and the hardware, we really focus on refining the entire project lifecycle and how all the pieces fit together. And you can imagine with the number of sites we have and the pieces that need to come together, both in terms of hardware and software and training, there's a lot of complexity there. We can break them down to three phases, design, installation, and operation. And I want to just highlight a couple sub-bullets under each one of those.

With design, we've really found that the site assessments, the quality of the site assessment greatly improves the rest of the project, and so we spend a half a day to a day with the electrical subcontractor, not only doing the survey that will provide the mapping of each fixture to its associated circuit, but also maintenance items and other things that we may find and want to be aware of.

Then this information is reviewed with the property manager during an investment, and that information is taken and those — the circuits are regrouped accordingly during the installation phase so that we can maximize the opportunity for night lighting by trying to select those circuits that give us the ability to stage back on areas of the site where we are able to, and leave lights on in other areas of the site that need to be left on, while trying to maintain some type of uniformity across the site.

And then during the installation, we also found that the testing and commissioning process is very important to eliminate any sort of malfunctions and operational issues. And then, finally, we found in the operation stage, the training is very important, and it can be a little overwhelming 'cause property managers at first and we found that a good training process is key to the success of the program.

Next slide, please.

Now for the good stuff. What type of savings and performance are we seeing from our project? There are two aspects of energy savings. One comes from tuning the dust-and-dawn on/off times. We found that even 15 minutes on either end, turning them on a little later, or turning them off a little sooner in the morning can lead to pretty significant savings. 15 minutes other side can lead to 4-percent annual savings. So that's the first component. The second is night lighting, and this can save anywhere from 15 to 30 percent based on the needs of the site, the security issues, ambient lighting conditions, whatnot.

I tell the property managers to shoot for half the lights for half the night, and that would essentially give us 25-percent savings if we are able to achieve that. The graph here, this is based on actual measurements, but I do have a quick — I'm sorry. That's for the next slide. This is actual measurements from a system in the Bay Area of California. The darker plot in the background is the demand profile of the lighting system basically before it's been optimized, running from exactly sunset to sunrise without any night lighting.

The lighter shade overlaid on top of that is the demand profile after site's been optimized. We will see there's a sliver of savings in the evening, and in the morning due to the offsets, and there's also a period of night where the light stages back, reduces demand for four to six hours during the night. And the area under these curves would essentially represent the associated consumption of each operation.

Next slide, please.

Here are the preliminary results of seven of our projects. I have a quick correction to the note below. All but one of these sites is based on actual measurements. The 280 site is based on calculations that are probably within a few percentage points of the actual measure performance. But just wanted to make that correction to the note below.

So we're seeing an average of 26-percent savings, a range of about 20 percent to 32 percent. And I don't have dollar signs on this map, but this represents anywhere from $2.00 to $5,000.00 per site per year. And on some of our larger sites, actually Riverview, the last site there, it actually represents much more than that. Two things to note, it varies by site, which we expect, but fortunately, the deviation is relatively small and so we really think that this 25-percent ballpark is a good number for us to expect.

We'll have long-term bill data results shortly, and look forward to the possibility of sharing those at some point in the future.

Next slide, please.

So where are we going from here? We have the design in place, and we're getting the process pretty well nailed down after having installed ten sites. We need to continue training our property managers and optimizing those site. We have 40 more to complete before the end of this year. Seven are going in right now, with 30-some to follow very soon.

We have over 100 sites budgeted so far for next year, and we're in the beginning stages of planning that rollout. We're also looking to continue to improve the program by driving down the cost and improving the Federal Reserve set. We want to continue providing training and support to the property managers as they are the catalysts for the success of the program for us, and we need to continue to monitor and optimize or continually commission, if you will, these sites to sustain long-term performance. And in addition to the property managers being the day-to-day operators, we do have systems in place where from a corporate standpoint, we can report on every metrics and make sure that these long-term savings are being realized.

Next slide, please.

That's it for me, and I look forward to any questions at the end of our time together.

Andres Potes:
Thanks of much, Nate. Very good presentation. If anyone has questions for Nate, we're gonna save the questions until the end. We're running pretty early on time, so that's good news for the questions.

Alexandra, I'm gonna un-mute you right now. Can you hear me? Could you speak?

Alexandra Kennedy:
Thank you. Hi, Andres, how are you?

Andres Potes:
Okay. Hi, good. We can hear you, so I'm gonna move onto your portion of the presentation.

Alexandra Kennedy:
Okay, great. So good afternoon, everyone. There's a little bit of a time delay I hear on the audio.

[Crosstalk]

Andres Potes:
Alexandra. You've got a little bit of a echo. Alexandra.

Alexandra Kennedy:
Can you hear it?

Andres Potes:
You have a little bit of an echo. Can you, on your audio panel, make sure to click on the button that just says Telephone, or Microphone, or mute your computer, and that'll allow us to eliminate the echo.

Alexandra Kennedy:
Okay.

Andres Potes:
I think we're okay. Now.

Alexandra Kennedy:
Okay, there were go. All right.

Andres Potes:
Go ahead.

Alexandra Kennedy:
Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you, Andres, and thank you for the LEEP campaign organizers on behalf of the University of Central Florida. Thank you all for giving us an opportunity. We feel privileged to be able to share our story at energy conservation. And as an energy conservation campaign vet ourselves, we are hugely in support of the LEEP campaign and I'm just gonna echo a little bit of what Nate had said earlier.

We hope to learn a lot of from you all, as well as to have the opportunity to share our story. So just a little background on the university itself. We're located in Orlando, Florida, established in 1963. We are 1 of 11 in the State of Florida University system. And we have about ten regional campuses associated in the Central Florida area. But our main campus is just a little bit over 9 million gross square footage. We have about 158 buildings here on our campus, so we're pretty tight packed in her on our campus.

Our student body is actually nearing — this fall semester, we've neared 68,000 students, making us the second largest in the nation by student population. Just speaking on behalf of my department itself, as a university, we have this overarching goal of climate neutrality by 2050, so as a department, we are tasked day to day operationally with that goal in mind. And parking structures, we have nine here on campus. It was so funny, so interesting to hear when entered into our competition, a parking structure, an actual parking facility, into this national building competition that the EPA had hosted. That was kind of a prevalent question that we received. "Why a garage? Why would you want to enter a garage?"

And we have nine here on campus. Square footage of the total of our parking facilities is just over a third of our actual building space, and so it was interesting to us that we got that question. We figured why not. It was difficult for us to compete fully in this competition, being that energy savings, there's no — this is an air-conditioned space. It simply had to come from lighting. We looked towards doing a lighting retrofit and that was ultimately what we wanted to do with regard to our projected savings plan.

Our department went ahead — I guess next slide — do I have access to it? Okay, there we go. Our department went ahead and planned on doing the lighting retrofit. This is an actual picture after the fact of the interior of the garage itself with the new lighting. This is total project dollar savings. This is cost savings that we had seen at the end of the project, and the reduce energy usage.

I guess it's also important to make it known that our department actually operates by seeking out buildings with high EUI, high energy usage intensity, so that's how we kind of prioritized our projects in this garage, displayed a very high EUI, so it was something that we wanted to go after. Total greenhouse gas emissions prevented was 258, and these were fantastic numbers to be able to show administration with regard to a project that we had baseline data from the previous 12 months, and after the completion of this two-phase lighting retrofit, we were able to exhibit this kind of savings was fantastic.

So moving on, we had been suggested by our lighting expert here within our department. He had said we should probably attack this particular retrofit in two phases. The first phase was with regard to that initial slide in that picture. We did a phase for the interior lighting, and here you see pictured is the high-performance T5 fluorescent lights had been replaced with 150 — or had replaced our 150-watt HPS fixtures.

I provided some specs on this particular model, but I'm not too well-versed on the technical aspect, so I'll try to answer questions as best as possible, but this was the fixture that we did see throughout the interior lighting of our retrofit, and this took — this was a very easy phase for us to actually tackle. It was just the initial phase. It was more difficult actually with our second phase of the project which — next slide — was our exterior retrofit. And we attacked this with a perimeter retrofit and here you'll see pictured is our wall pack fixtures. And that was our 150-watt HPS fixtures are were once again replaced with 44-watt LED fixtures. And then in conjunction with an exterior retrofit, we had actually performed a top-deck retrofit, and that would be next slide.

We had replaced our 400-watt HPS fixtures with 16-cooper LED watts. And this, you can see pictures here is magnificent, actually, at night. I wish it would have included a photo of this itself. But this garage particularly has just such a bright true color comparative to other parking garage structures, and this is the top deck lighting. You can be seen from adjacent buildings. It looks fantastic, so we've actually seen not only energy savings, but just a cleaner, brighter light, which many of the university administrators were at first a little hesitant to just such a different look of a garage, but, ultimately, really enjoy the result of this project.

Next slide. We have total projects replaced was 424 fixtures itself. We did take a little bit more time for the project itself. It was about four weeks, and that was because we were trying to avoid causing any disruptions to day-to-day visitors. It's very much so a commuter campus and we have a high volume traffic throughout the day. So we made sure that this project was performed on weekends and late in the evening and early in the morning, so it did take us a little bit longer to complete. But our payback period that we're projecting is about two years.

And like I said previously, we not only had seen the actual energy savings as a result from the retrofit itself, but we've seen better visibility to include that I would probably have improved safety for our visitors which is hugely important for us to have our UCF community be protected and have that improved visibility, reading a higher truer color rendering index on the scale. So we're excited to see those kinds of savings beyond just the monetary savings that we've seen.

And so here's the final results. So to determine Germany and cost savings, we used historical sub-meter reading from pre and post-project energy use and made this whole comparison. Here you'll see our energy reduction as well as our cost savings. And it's been fantastic to have the opportunity to put in our initial garage within this competition, and then see this kind of savings. This project has actually been replicated throughout our nine parking structures on campus, and it's fantastic to see that in just a short amount of time, we've been able to see this kind of savings.

Percentage of electric savings at 63 percent, we exceeded our competition within our category. We were within another category simply because we were a parking structure and there weren't many facilities that were parking — we were the only stand-alone parking structure actually within the competition, and I think our next competitor was somewhere in the 40 percentile of energy use savings, so this was fantastic for us to be able to put in — to see this kind of savings, to see this kind of success from a particular project.

Next slide. And in conjunction with the competition itself, it was important to let the community know what it was that we were doing day-to-day operational efforts at our university is to uphold this overall university just goal of sustainability. So we feel we have overwhelmingly the opportunity to make a significant impact on our community. We definitely utilized social media outreach. We went out to local media. We used our student publication and we promoted what we were doing with regard to this competition and seemed to get a tremendous amount of positive feedback.

We actually had the honor of hosting the EPA regional administrator and she came out to give us an award based on our competition success. And for us, this is our success story and why we feel like it's so important for us to not only continue our day-to-day operations with regard to energy savings, but to promote these particular projects with regard to energy savings.

Next slide. And so with regards to lessons learned, I know that was important for many of our fellow competitors. They had wanted to know what was — "What did you learn from participating in this particular competition? Would you consider it advantageous to go for something like this, again, a parting structure?" And we did experience some unforeseen challenges with regard to product selection. We we're exactly sure. We kind of spent a vast majority of the time perusing the marketing and determining what it was that we actually wanted to install, and a what it was that we needed. But that selection process, be it lengthy, was incredibly necessary for us.

We did notice that the high-pressurized sodium lights that we had put in initially, gave off this radian warm orange light, and it gave a very inviting feel to campus. And I know administrators were a little hesitant to change that overall look, and that's what you see pictured here in this image is just our campus environment looking a certain way. The university aesthetic is incredibly important to them, so they didn't want to see that changed. But once they saw the actual energy savings that we had projected from our initial analysis, they were pretty supportive at that point. So ultimately, they approved the brighter white light for our garages, and now you can see, being that all of the parking structures surround the perimeter of our campus, it's completely changed just the look and feel and we are hearing positive feedback. "We enjoy the actual look of the campus, now."

So coming off of this successful project and a national win. Were fairly confident that we have this process down and we've been able to replicate it throughout campus, and we continue to seek out energy strategies throughout all facilities. So thank you all for your time.

Andres Potes:
Great. Thank you, Alexandra. We've two good examples there. So we're gonna — oh, sorry. We're gonna wrap up here with questions and I'm gonna un-mute all the panelists here. Forgive me a little bit if I struggle technically.

Okay. Let's get to some of the questions here. And just, also, in case you're aware, the slides and the recording of the Webinar will be available once again, at the Department of Energy website and the LEEP website.

Okay. So let's start with a question for — let's go with Michael. "I work for a manufacturer of energy-efficient Luminaires, fluorescent and LED sources. How do I get our products to be considered as part of this campaign?

Michael Myer:
Well, ultimately, we are still working on a mechanism to involve manufacturers. The campaign is ultimately for end users, sites themselves, and they select whatever technology they want. We are just promoting energy efficiency as well as technologies.  But we are working on a mechanism to try to help sites maybe evaluate and find products through a more formalized means, but we don't entirely have that finalized yet.

Alexandra made a good comment about it was just really necessarily for the University of Central Florida to spend the necessarily time to evaluate all the different lighting technologies, and they found it very valuable and probably after they did their first marketing structure, it went much quicker the next couple of times.

So we recognize that it is helpful for sites who may not be familiar with all the different technologies out there, and all the different manufacturers out there of the technologies, but at the same time, we're trying to limit — we're not trying to limit. We're trying to just make the mechanism better so that the interaction with site owners and manufacturers is the most productive as possible.

Andres Potes:
Great, thanks, Michael. Another question. "Does this program apply to smaller businesses that have one or two parking lots?"I would say that, yes, certainly we've configured the categories of awards so that if you're a small lot, you can still have a chance of winning, depending on your savings and the percent of lots that you submit. Michael, anything to add on that one?

Michael Myer:
One to 1,000, or 1 to infinity. Yeah — no, please, every site adds up to our total goal, and just 'cause it's a mom-and-pop or a one-off site, we'd like you to help save energy. But at the same time, if you have 100 sites or 1,000 sites, we'd still like you to save energy.

Andres Potes:
Great, thanks. So, Nate, this question is for you. "As a gentleman from Kimco discussed as impressive level of outdoor lighting control, is there any concern that hardware being installed to the lighting fixtures will not be supported by future operating system upgrades on iPads and PCs? Having several now useless PC accessories that no longer offer software upgrades, it's' always on the back of my mind." Any response to that, Nate?

Nate Mitten:
Sure. It's a good question. When you make decisions about platforms to build off of, it's certainly a very important consideration about interoperability with both the end device, the PC, or the iPad, what have you, and whether or not it will be usable long term. The platform that we've selected which is the Tridium Company, but the technology is called Niagara AX. It's not the only, but it's probably the predominant one of its class which creates kind of an open architecture, if you will, for developers and manufacturers to build off of, much like Apple putting out an open — an API for the iPhone and everybody going out to build an app for it — somewhat similar.

We think we have chosen the best one, and everything is doable through a standard Internet browser, an so the end device is pretty — we're agnostic to the end device. So at the end of the day, there's always some level of risk there, but we've tried to do our due diligence to minimize that risk.

Andres Potes:
Okay, great. So the next question is for Alexandra. "Did the UCF parking lot lighting retrofit include controls, or were the controls present?" Alexandra?

Alexandra Kennedy:
Yes. That's a good question. Controls were present. We just looked into replacing the actual fixtures themselves. They needed an update, anyway, and so we actually — and something important that I need mention is that we also not only we had to accrue a little bit more of a cost initially with the higher, more efficiency lighting, but we also are now seeing a higher lifecycle and warranty on those actual products themselves. So, no, controls were in place already, but we were just actually retrofitting the actual lighting itself.

Andres Potes:
Michael, this question is for you. I guess can you please re-outline sort of the technical assistance services that the LEEP campaign will provide and sort of how the application process works?

Michael Myer:
Sure. It's a great question. So technical assistance is somewhat — I don't way nebulous. We provide the Pacific Northwest Laboratory, we're one of the Department of Energy laboratories, so we're gonna provide technical assistance. But because we are taxpayer-funded, we are not — and for many other reasons, liability and other issues, we will not do design. We're not going to come in and say, "Well, you should space these fixtures ten feet apart, blah, blah, blah." We're not going to do that.

But what we can do and what we ask for is first we'll start by asking questions. What type of lighting do you have? How much lighting do you have? But we want to get into specifics. What's the square footage? How many fixtures? What type of fixtures they are. And then, also what are your site's lighting requirements? One thing we often find out is if a site requires ten-foot candles or eight-foot candles, which are real existing lighting requirements, the first thing we're gonna say, "Well, wait a minute. Maybe you need to rethink those requirements because energy savings is really hard when you're really pushing for high light levels."

So one thing we're gonna do is try to look at existing practice and try to see where energy savings are possible.

If it's a technology that's just old, for instance, mercury vapor, which is an extreme example, very old technology that's being use, we'd say, "Well, that technology's so old, and it pretty much has a very limited life at this point. You're gonna have to move away from it one-way or the other. Here are some options." But then what we're gonna also do is so we're gonna look at what your existing equipment is, and operation schedule and that type of stuff, and then start proposing stuff.

Well, are you considering sensors? If so, here's some stuff you should know about daylight sensors. IF you are considering occupancy sensors, here's some things you should know about occupancy sensors. We're gonna try to point you to resources like technology specifications, or if there's a technology that you're interested in, maybe it's LED and you're saying, "Well, we have a question about correlated values." We might point you to a document produce by the Department of Energy's coil and solid-state lighting program where it really walks through the basics of how all the different values work.

So we're gonna try to push the many different resources that are pre-existing out there, mainly 'cause there's a lot of great ones, and I don't want to reinvent stuff, nor do we want to reinvent stuff. But we're also gonna try to say, "Oh, well, consider this," or, "Look at these four options," or, "These technologies might work compared to what you're trying to do."

It also is gonna depend on each site. It's really hard to say what any tone type of thing is. So in general, no design work or similar type of aspect of it, but we are going to push existing resources, try to provide specific questions, and provide some existing resources and materials where we can.

Andres Potes:
Alexandra, on the UCF project, what led to the selection of T5 technology instead of LEDs? And, again, I want to stress that the campaign is technology neutral, so we'll take them any way we can get them. Alexandra? T5 and over LEDs?

Alexandra Kennedy:
Yes. From my understanding, the T5 was selected beyond other products on the market. It was just what fit best for us. I can really argue the fact that I leave here probably with the best available on the market right now, and specifically, we were looking for a particular product that we knew once we put into this facility that we would be able to put into all of our facilities because not every parking garage is created equal.

We wanted to make sure that this was something that was that was a more malleable product, and for many — for particular reasons. I know one of which that we were excited to see is that this — without having to be replaced, we're looking at anticipated life of these fluorescent lamps for future repair expense up to three to four years. So that was also very attractive to us in regard to these particular lights. I think ultimately, they just want out. It was what we needed, what we were looking for, and throughout the selection process, it is what actually stood up to us the product that we were looking to ultimately put into our garage throughout the campus.

Andres Potes:
Thanks, Alexandra. This question is, "We are in the final installation phase of a lighting myself project in one of our poking los

Andres Potes:
Thanks, Alexandra. This question is, "We are in the final installation phase of a lighting retrofit project in one of our parking lots. Can we still unroll in the LEEP campaign?" So any — anyone is eligible to participate in the campaign as long retrofit happened after January 2010. And then you can participate up until November 30 of 2013. So the answer is, yes, you're eligible.

I'm scrolling through questions. "Does this program apply to transit authority and other public entities?" I would say, yes. We're trying to — we're actively trying to recruit participants, so any public or private type of building, or any owner/manager, even parking lot owner or management companies.

Now this question is for Nate. "We are looking at fixture level motion sensors, MH2T5 surface lot projects in series with circuit-level photo cells. It seems to us that there's very finite level of control will lead to the lowest possible KWH use. What are your thoughts on this approach versus a more complicated Web-based controls?"

Nate Mitten:
I think I understand the technology. I've seen the — it sounds — we haven't — I personally have not implemented a project like that, so I'll preface it by saying that. But that sounds like a good approach from some projects I'm familiar with, actually here around the Charlotte area that I've seen.

If you don't need to have a lot of variability in your schedules, if your site's gonna sit there and do what it's gonna do day in and day out, then find something that works well, and I'd say you don't really need to have the ability to sign in and make changes on the fly or get those sorts of those alarming features and stuff like that that we were interested in.

If you keep in mind that each of our property managers manages 20 to 30 sites, there's kind of — there's more impetus for us to give that level of information whereas, if there's a facility manager that has one parking lot they're responsible for, and they can be on call, so to speak to respond to issues quickly, then it's probably less important that they have access to all that granularity and there's probably less motivation to spend the additional money to get that. So to me, it sounds like a good approach.

Andres Potes:
Here's another question. "Have you evaluated light-emitting plasma lights, LEP lights? We've reviewed and have been impressed. Have you heard of or have any advice on light-emitting plasma lights?"

Nate Mitten:
I've only heard of them. I don't know anything about them.

Michael Myer:
This is Mike Myer. Yes, light-emitting plasma is a form of HID technology. It's specifically like metal halide, only it is missing the electrodes. The electrodes are a weak point in many types of lamps. And so by getting rid of electrodes your increasing the life of the lamp. That being said, it's a very much different form factor of a light source, so just because it's similar to metal halide. It requires an entirely new type of fixture, both from an optical and design point of view. Currently, there's a handful of LED manufacturers of the actual light source, and then there's also a handful of manufacturers making fixtures for them.

So going back to the one of the earlier questions about technology changing, but definitely something to consider. What happens if Manufacturer A no longer makes the product? It happens to many technologies, but right now with three or four manufacturers, it's something to think about.

One of the limitations of the technology is the lumen output range. Many other sources, whether it's metal halide or fluorescent or LED or even induction, have many different output settings. LEP, because it's still new, they don't have as many light output options. They're numerous. They're actually very high lumen output products, but if you want maybe a low-lumen output product, you might have a harder time finding that. As I said, that is one of the disadvantages of it.

And advantage of it is it can be dimmed pretty easily, which is new for most metal halide technology. Metal halide can dim, but it's not always friendly to it, whereas, LEP can dim much further. There's I believe a color shift when you start getting to the low end. But it's being used usually more installations of it. I believe a town in Indiana has installed them for most of their street light and if you do a little Googling on streetlight technologies, you might find a large installation of it.

Andres Potes:
Thanks, Michael. A couple questions. Someone's asking about subsidies in the beginning of the Webinar. We're not — the campaign isn't providing any financial assistance, but we are providing sort of resources to existing financial assistance. If you check on the LEEP website, you'll be able to find a section called Financial and Technical Assistance, and it'll detail — it has a downloadable spreadsheet that we'll be keeping up to date that you can sort by type of — by market, by location, by type of light, things like that.

Another question on the campaign awards. How baseline KWH and results will be verified. Michael, do you wanna take on that one?

Michael Myer:
Well, we're doing two different methodologies. One, we're doing initial calculations. We're just asking for data, and we're doing the calculations, or you can do the calculations through the initial data. But when we do move to verification for the award process itself, or any savings that's seem significant and need to be verified. We're still working on the exact plan. If there's existing metering on site, we'll try to take advantage of that. If not, it might be some spot measurements where we verify fixtures actually installed and a rough idea over the operating frequently is.

Andres Potes:
Thanks, Michael. So just a couple more questions, and then I'll throw it up to Karen, Marina, and Paul to just give us some closing thoughts.

Nate, do your controls at location integrate motion sensors in and to dust controls? If so, have you experienced any problem when combining the two?

Nate Mitten:
Good question. We currently do not have any occupancy-based. There's a variety of challenges associated with that because we are a circuit-level control, if you will, and not a fixture-level control, like I went over. We don't have the level of granularity that you'd like to have if you're doing occasionally based, such as an occasionally sensor on every pole, or every other pole. So that's one challenge that we would face.

The other is — actually, well, basically, how to get the signal from the occupancy sensor back to our central control panel. It would likely require wireless communications or wire to be ran, which, again, be cost-prohibitive. I see our program eventually moving towards wireless fixture-level control at some point in the future. We've piloted it, and it wasn't as successful and robust as we were looking for. It doesn't mean there aren't technologies out there that may be, even now, but our experience with what we used wasn't — didn't meet our needs at this point. And so I would see the implementation of an occupancy-based input would be at that time where we do have fixture-level control.

And so I see us potentially moving towards that in future to get even better savings, but for now, we don't incorporate it. But in terms of technically speaking, it wouldn't be that hard to do. It's more just the cost benefit ratio for us right now.

Andres Potes:
Great, thanks. So I'm gonna leave it, the last couple minutes here in case the campaign organizers want to share a couple thoughts. Now would be great. Is that — can you please just speak up and share a couple of your closing thoughts?

Paul Wessel:
This is Paul from the Green Parking Council. As I read or see more case studies, I'm intrigued by the number of different approaches that organizations are taking to improve the operation for their lighting, and learn so much each time. So I think we should continue to try to figure out ways to share the history of what people have done. I know on the LEEP website we have some links to a bunch of different case studies.

But I wanted to thank the folks for sharing them today and some of the folks who shared them in the past, and we'll continue to promote those among our members 'cause it's just fascinating to see.

Andres Potes:
Thanks, Paul. Karen or Marina?

Karen Penafiel:
Thanks. This is Karen. I also want to thank everybody. I also want to say you know what? We're really excited to hear about all the successes. I think we also learned from things that didn't work so well. So as regarding to this campaign and recognizing all the great accomplishments, I know from BOMA's perspective, we'd really appreciate hearing from everybody that's participating in the campaign and what works and what doesn't work so that we could make sure some of that expertise gets shared with the broader industry.

But other than that, I just wish you all luck, and you have all of our contact information, and please don't hesitate to get in touch with any of us if you have any questions or need any additional information.

Andres Potes:
Thanks, Karen. Marina?

M. Badoian-Kriticos:
Thank you all for attending and listening to the presentations. Along with my colleagues, we're just thrilled at the level of interest in this program, and definitely look forward to at the end of this being able to share some sustainable practices that will help everyone involved, as well as those beyond to be able to develop a business case in order to implement projects like this in the future.

So, again, I encourage you to share this information with other colleagues that you might have locally and in the industry as we move forward with this campaign.

Andres Potes:
Great, thanks, everyone. We're gonna wrap up. And just a reminder that we're gonna post the slides and the recording of the Webinar. And also, I think we're gonna take a shot at taking — answering some of these questions that we didn't get to. There were a lot of questions. I just sort of went through it and tried to briefly skim the best ones. But if there are some good ones we see on there, we're gonna post those as well.

So thanks, everyone, and have a good rest of the day.

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