Webinar on the Alternative Fueling Station Locator (Text Version)

This is a text version of the video for the webinar on the Alternative Fueling Station Locator presented on Sept. 19, 2013, by Andrew Hudgins, National Renewable Energy Laboratory; and Alexis Schayowitz, ICF International.

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I would like to introduce your host for today's conference. Mr. Andrew Hudgins, you may begin.

ANDREW HUDGINS: All right. Thank you very much and good afternoon everyone. We are happy to present our annual Clean Cities Webinar on the Alternative Fueling Station Locator. The Station Locator is our most used tool through the Clean Cities Department of Energy Program.

Although I don't recognize a lot of the names on the attendee list I'm really happy we have some coalition stakeholders on the phone and we certainly welcome you and glad that you're here with us today.

So today you're going to be hearing about the functionality of the Station Locator and some of the new items that we have on the horizon. In the past year we've done a lot to improve the locator and we really confirm that we do a very rigorous and have a dedicated team supporting this tool. So we're very confident in and comfortable with the data.

And the best people to explain that are the people that really do the heavy lifting for the Station Locator. And that's Alexis Schayowitz and Stacy Noblet from ICF International. And Alexis is going to be your tour guide for the day. So without further ado we can hand it over to Alexis.

ALEXIS SCHAYOWITZ: Thanks, Andrew. Hello everybody, welcome to the webinar. Just to give you a little bit of an overview of what we'll be talking about today, Andrew gave a good summary but I'll be giving a background about the Station Locator, a little bit of history and information about the data that we collect.

And then we will be doing a live tour of the Station Locator. I'll walk you through some of the different features and the different tools that are available with the data.

And then we'll come back and talk about fuel-specific fields as well as some upcoming improvement's to the locator. Then we'll go through the annual update process for the data in the locator. As Andrew mentioned we have a rigorous data update process. And how you can play a role in that update process by making and submitting new stations and making updates.

And lastly provide contact information for further questions and then of course take your questions on the line here.

So a little bit of background on the Station Locator; the database was first populated in the mid-1990s. Both the database itself and the user interface have undergone a lot of improvement and iterations since then.

As Andrew mentioned it's currently maintained by ICF under contract with NREL and we have a very collaborative relationship with NREL to make sure both the data and the user-interface are the best that they can be.

We track all the commercially available energy policy act alternative fuels and that includes biodiesel blends of B20 and above. And the stipulation there is the station has to sell B20 or above at some point during the year so it can be a seasonal blend issue.

Compressed natural gas or CNG; electric vehicle supply equipment or EVSE; Ethanol (E85); liquefied natural gas (LNG); propane or liquefied petroleum gas and hydrogen. Hydrogen is not actually maintained by ICF but later on when we talk about the update process if you, you know, send us your updates we're happy to get them to the right place.

The database includes all of the public and private fueling stations in the United States including planned stations. Planned stations are typically stations that are in the mid to late stages of planning. They have an approximate address; they've started the permitting process. Although we do like to hear about stations that, you know, are in the infancy of the planning process we typically like to put ones out there that have some sort of address and a plan in place.

The database does not include residential fueling equipment. So that would be CNG that's in a residence or EVSE that's in a residence. It also doesn't include multi-unit dwellings or condo and apartment complexes if the EVSE in this case is only available to the residents. If the EVSE at a multi-unit dwelling is available to the public then we will include it. And it also doesn't include off-road vehicle fueling sites.

So we're going to go right from here into the Station Locator. I'll show you how the locator works and some of the tools. The locator is available from anywhere on the AFDC. This is the main AFDC landing page. As you can see at the top here we have a Locate Stations button. That button is always there no matter where you are on the AFDC. And if you scroll down, on the bottom panel you also have this Locate Stations menu on the bottom.

So you can really access it from anywhere. One of the pages that we talk a lot about with AFDC is the Tools Page which is over here to the right on the top bar. And you can also access it from there. It's the first selection under this interactive map. So that's how I'll get to it today.

This is the main Station Locator landing page. What you'll see here is that there are two tabs on the left. We are on the Find Stations tab. We'll talk about the Plan a Route tab in a moment. And when you land here you'll see the Search bar, then you'll see this drop down list where you can select all fuels or one individual fuel if you're interested in a specific fuel type.

We have this More Search Options button which I will go into more detail about that in a moment. And then we have this count here of the total number of alternative fueling station in the United States. As you can see we're at about 12,500 right now.

A few notes about this number. This excludes private stations. So I will go in and show you how you can include private stations in this count when we go into the More Search Options. It also excludes planned stations. So this count—as well as all the dots on the right on the map—are only public and existing stations.

Another thing to sort of point out is that with electrical vehicle supply equipment or EVSE we have—for every dot on this map you can see from the legend here that the EVSE are the yellow diamonds—for every dot that's a location where EVSE is located—at each location there might be multiple ports at that location. So this number here on the left includes the number of EVSE locations it's not reflective of the number of ports at that location. So that's an important distinguishing factor when you're talking about the total alternative fueling station count.

So from here on the map on the right you can zoom in, you can move around this map. If you were looking for a specific area, you know, you can keep zooming and moving. Its functionality is very similar to Google Maps.

So back to the left we're going to try a couple searches. In this search bar here you can type any number of things into this search bar so I'll start at the larger levels so say you were looking for all the alternative fueling stations in Michigan. Type Michigan in and what you get is a map zoomed in on Michigan. You've got your alternative total, alternative fueling stations count has been changed to just Michigan. Again we've got just public stations here.

And what you'll see is you also get this option to download a spreadsheet of matching stations. So a lot of Clean Cities coalitions are state-focused so if you were looking for a download of all the stations in your state this would be a great way to do it. I'll show you other ways later. But so this would be, you know, state level.

You can also use the abbreviation for a state so Texas—TX—that will re-center you on Texas and you'd get your alt fuels count and your map of Texas. You can also search by city so we'll try Washington, D.C. And what you get here is it centers you on the center of the city and then gives you the top alternative fueling stations around that center. And once you get down to the city level you start to get this list on the left. And if you scroll down you see, you know, the pin-pointed stations and basic station information for each of those stations.

And if you scroll down you can start to zoom out. So you get the next set that's zoomed out and you can continue to do that out from the middle of the city.

The last kind of search I was going to show you is an actual address so let's use the NREL address in Golden, Colorado. A little shout out to our friends in Colorado. So here you've got—actually centered on the address—and the closest alternative fueling stations to that address. Again you have the same functionality—you can zoom out.

So before I click into one of these stations I did want to show you this button in the upper right corner—Embed. If you click that you can actually if you're looking to embed a little widget on your website, whether it be a coalition website, or a fuel provider website or whatever it might be you can actually hit that button, you can customize the size of the widget and then cut and copy this html into your web design. So I'll go ahead and do that.

So let's click into one of these stations so we can see the type of information that you get. So we'll go to this CNG station—Clean Energy station here. So if you click on the station you get the basic information. We're going to click into More Details.

So when you look at More Details you've got the station name, the station address, the phone number. We include that right off the top because we do suggest as the note at the bottom mentions that we update the stations on an annual basis but the location details are subject to change. So we always recommend that you call ahead especially if you're not familiar with the station, so that phone number is there.

You can also map directions by clicking on the directions link. And I won't click on this but it leads you to Google Maps and you can type in your own address and get directions to that location. You can also click this Find Nearby Stations which will refocus the search on that specific station address.

There's some additional information here—access details, the major thing. With access it's whether it is public or private access. And then if there are additional details that you need to know, like for instance for this station you have to have a card key at all times. Hours—this station is 24 hours daily. And then the Hours Field tends to have additional information like additional payments that aren't defaults in the Station Locator.

And then Payments Accepted—this station accepts Clean Energy—Clean Energy card. The Notes Field tends to be intersection directions or additional information that you might need to know about the station before going there.

Underneath is the Fuel Specific details. So we'll talk a little bit about more of the fuel specific details but here you've got the CNG station information. And then the Last Confirmed Date—so you can see exactly when the last time that we confirmed the details of this station.

All the way over to the right you see a zoomed in on the map location. You also have a picture here. This picture just so—we get questions about this often—this is automatically generated from Google Maps and Google Earth. It's not something that we can upload at this point but we can change the latitude and longitude of the station. So if you think, you know, that's not where my station is we can mess around with the latitude and longitude to get it to the right place. But that picture, we can't actually upload any old picture into that place.

And the last thing I want to point out on this Edit the Station page is—or sorry on the More Details page—is this Edit the Station button. So say you're in here and you realize this is my station and I actually accept Visa too. So you would go in and type in your contact information and then make whatever changes below that you have and then you hit Submit at the bottom. And that comes to us and we verify those details and we'll make those updates. So I'll talk a little more about the station update process later but I did want to show you where that Edit the Station button is.

So backing out again I did want to show you there's more search options on the left. So these are where you would change some of the search criteria. You can include private stations as I mention below and then you can also include planned stations in your search.

So the important thing to mention with including planned stations is that the way this database works right now you have to select Include Private Stations and Include Planned Stations in order to pull up a planned station search. That's something that NREL is working on changing but just remember that when you're in there looking and you're looking for a station that may be listed as planned that also to select Include Private Stations in your search.

Some of the other things you can search by—the Owner Type, the Payment Type Accepted, so if you know your fleet has to pay in WEX then you can select WEX. The charger types for EVSE—these are the different charger types that you can search by. And then you can also limit your results within a certain number of miles of the address that you're searching.

So we'll go to this second tab over here on the left—Plan a Route. So this can be helpful for fleets that are looking—or even a consumer trying to get from point A to point B with their alternative fuel vehicle. So let's try a search across the country from Washington, D.C. to Golden, Colorado. And we're going to be driving our FFV across the country. Got it here and what you'll see is it comes up with a list—well a map—and also a list of ethanol stations along the route between Washington and Golden. You can again download that spreadsheet of stations and stick it in your car as you drive across country.

Say here you're a little worried because you've got this big gap sort of between Washington and Indiana. You don't have very many stations in there. Well you can use your More Search options to expand the number of miles off of your route. So say you were willing to drive 25 miles off of your route and that will automatically update and what see is you start to see more stations in here, more options. So it's just some of the different ways that you can play with the data here and get the information you need.

Another thing that I wanted to point out here which we'll talk a little bit more about later is this Add a Station button in the upper right corner. If you select that you can actually add a station. We do ask that you search the database first—make sure you're not adding a station that's already in here. But we encourage you to submit any new stations to the database. Please fill out as much information as you have. As you can see you've got all of your fields here and then hit Submit at the bottom. And that comes right in to us at ICF.

The last thing right here on the Station Locator page that I do want to point out is if you scroll down here on the left panel you will also see this About the Data button. And that's really important because this sort of reviews if you don't have your Station Locator Webinar pulled up a lot of the things that we're going to go over today about the station update process and the different fields and how things work in the Station Locator as far as the data goes—that is an important—and I have a link to that in the presentation but—it's important, you know, if people have got questions, stakeholders that sort of thing have questions about the data that's a great place to refer them because more often than not the explanation is in here.

I'm going to go into a few different other places. The AFDC where the station data is used. So if you go back up here to this Locate Stations button that I talked about earlier and you can get over to this station data by state. This is a, you know, current count of the number of stations in the Station Locator by state. And this information I think is really helpful for a lot of people, we get these questions often.

The one thing I do want to point out here is you have the EVSE—what you'll notice is this number is a lot higher than what we were looking at before particularly for EVSE on the Station Locator page. That's because here in the Counts Page you are looking at the total number of ports—or outlets—for EVSE not the total number of locations. That's a differential factor between the count on the main Station Locator page.

Also up here on this tab at the top is the Download Station Data button. And like I said earlier you can download your search results from the Station Locator page but if you're looking for a data download of all the stations with a particular fuel type or even of all the fuel types this is a great place to get that data.

If you go through you can select Alternative Fuel Stations, data sets, the CSV file is often the one that you'll want to use because that will opens in Excel. This link that shows up here is an important link. What you can do here is see all the different fields that will show up in your excel spreadsheet which I'll show you later. But this has a description of all the fields that show up in that spreadsheet so if you have any questions about the data and what the different codes mean—that kind of thing—the answer to those questions is likely here.

So clicking back out of that we've got your download options. It defaults to all of the fuel types, all of the access types and all the status types but you can make selections if you have them—public/private, open/planned and then of course the different fuel types.

Up in your contact information here and hit download. I do have a spreadsheet here to show you what shows up. So this is a CSV file in Excel and you can actually scroll through and you'll see that this is all of the station detail—public, private, planned, existing stations and if you scroll over you've got all of your different fields which I showed you the descriptions of earlier.

The nice thing about having the data in Excel is that you can then filter and sort the data so that you can use it however you need. Going back into where we were before—just one more, well a few more tools. If you go to this Maps and Data page which—it contains a lot of information, useful information. But I just wanted to point out that here under Fuels and Infrastructure; Alternative Fueling Stations, you've got a number of maps and graphs that are helpful.

Specifically I wanted to point out these density maps here by fuel type. If you open up these they are basically density maps of stations. You can see where the highest number of alternative fueling stations are in the states. And then down here this alternative fueling stations by fuel type is historic data over the years by the number of fueling stations. So the maps and data page is another place where the station locator data shows up.

And lastly just wanted to quickly go to this tools button back to the tools button where we were before and underneath the station locator you'll see the Transatlas tool and we'll pop into this quickly it's a, you know, whole webinar could be done—and I think has—on the Transatlas tool. But I did want to mention that the station locator data will be available is also here in the Transatlas tool and you can use the Transatlas tool to look at stations as well as vehicle density and also production facilities.

So for instance here I have selected flex fuel vehicle density E85 stations and Ethanol plants. And you can zoom in—and there are lots of different functionalities here—but you can zoom in so we're back in Colorado. And you can see where the existing stations are and then if you go to the legends on the left, the density of vehicles and those stations and where there might be an opportunity for a new station, that kind of thing. So the Transatlas tool is another great way to use the station data.

Going back to our presentation I did want to point out that I do have links in the presentation. The presentation will be posted after the webinar on the Clean Cities website. So you'll be able to find links to each of those tools that I mentioned.

Now to go into a little more detail on fuel specific fields. We've got all the fuel types here on this table. And what you'll see here is the data fields that are live in the station locator, the ones that are coming soon—kind of in the works—and then the data that we're collecting behind the scenes. And the reason for explaining to you what's being collected behind the scenes is that many of you are coordinators and stakeholders that we're reaching out to daily; so for station updates.

And we're sending you spreadsheets and these are the data fields we're collecting information on. So I don't want you to be surprised if they show up when we're asking you questions about these different—data points aren't necessarily in the live station. Later I'll go into a little bit of detail about those.

So for biodiesel we have the blend available again we're looking for any station that sells B20 or above at any time during the year. And we will make a note if they are seasonal blends and we'll make a note if they sell multiple blend types.

On the coming soon side what you'll see is that we're going to add functionality to allow the user to search by blend level. So if you only want to use B20 or you only want it to use B100 you'll be able to do that.

On CNG we've got in the locator now a fill type—so that's fast fill and time fill, compression by PSI and then vehicle accessibility. So the station locator lists whether all vehicle types are accessible to the location. And this is purely a size thing not a capacity; so does a heavy duty vehicle fit in the station. And it'll also mention only light or medium duty or only light duty vehicles.

Behind the scenes we are collecting information about whether the station has a generator that can operate the compressors and the rest of the station if there was a power outage. And this sort of comes out of some of the activities after Hurricane Sandy in New York state or New York metro area where CNG stations were running when a lot of the gas stations weren't because they were out of fuel. So we're collecting this information for emergency situations that's not listed on the station locator.

Other information that we're collecting behind the scenes: gas provider, the number of compressors, and compressor types.

For EVSE we have a link if the EVSE is a networked station, we have a link to the network Website, we have the type of EVSE as you saw on the More Search Options and the number of ports and types.

In the coming soon field we've got—we're going to differentiate the different types of DC fast charging so CHAdeMO, SAE, J1772 combo and Tesla will be able to search and distinguish on those. And we're also working with network providers to potentially provide more detailed information including availability, status of network stations and to keep that data up to date and more current. So that's in the coming soon box and we're just sort of exploring that.

Lastly behind the scenes with EVSE we're collecting information about whether the EVSE would consider workplace charging and that's in conjunction with the DOE workplace charging initiative work place charging challenge. We're also collecting manufacturer information.

For E85 we have blender pump availability, that's yes or no, does the station have a blender pump. Hydrogen—many of the stations have a link to a website that will allow you to see the status of the hydrogen station. LNG—we've got a field very similar to CNG, clean vehicle accessibility and then on the behind the scenes we've got generator information, and on the gas provider.

For propane this is a sort of a new field for us. We've got information about propane services and the idea here is it's meant to capture whether auto gas—propane auto gas is a primary service for the station or whether—also for instance in the case of a primary station the idea is that the station has dedicated vehicle services and special vehicle fuel pricing available.

In the case of secondary station fuel is available for vehicles but there's not any vehicle services and there's not a vehicle fuel-specific pricing available. So behind the scenes we're capturing that pricing information basically and answering the question whether auto gas is cheaper than—or priced differently than propane fuel for instance and a propane tank. So that information is being collected behind the scenes in order to populate the primary and secondary field.

Also coming soon we've got the mobile app. We get questions about this a lot and the mobile app will be available in the iTunes store this fall. Currently there's a mobile website available and this is the link. That mobile website works really well at least on my iPhone it does. You can pull it up and type in the searches and it does work well in the, you know, mobile web-viewing application. And again as I mentioned we are going to have more filtering options in the station locator.

Many of the improvements over time to the locator are the result of input from industry, input from coordinators, so keep them coming. If you have suggestions we'd love to hear them, we'd love to talk through them with you so let's add to this also coming soon.

So just to show you a little bit of information about where the data comes from that's in the station locator our Clean Cities coordinators and stakeholders are a great data source. All of you are encouraged to send us updates if you're aware of new stations, station closings, station updates. We'd rather get this station information twice than not at all so send it along.

We may also reach out to you proactively for input. Coordinators will reach out to you if we've found that a station is unresponsive, to see whether you have updated contact information. As stakeholders many of you are points of contact for stations so we'll be reaching out to you on an annual basis.

We also, you know, if you have grants going on that you're funding new stations please let us know. We do get updates on recovery act grants but coordinators have also sent us updates from their PEV readiness grants and we encourage you to continue to do that for additional grants that come along.

One distinction that I want to make here is that coordinators are required to submit alternative fuel price report information. That is not the same as submitting a station locator data update so please send us your station information as well. Just because you send a station through the fuel price report doesn't necessarily mean it's getting to us.

We also get information from industry publications; we receive a variety of publications and we scan those for updates. We cross check the database with a variety of industry websites that we've deemed to be reliable over time. One thing to note here is that there are differences in methodology and inclusion criteria for different industry websites. So if you're just looking at the total number of stations on website "x" as compared to AFDC, the total number might not be the same just because of the way that we collect our data.

We also get user input as I showed you the new station submission form also through the AFDC webmaster. And we have a number of industry collaborations that we foster. So we work with fuel and infrastructure providers as well as associations on the EVSE front, network providers, manufacturers, sellers, utilities, really our contacts run the gambit. We're always looking for new collaboration.

One example of industry collaboration was that change that we made to the propane primary-secondary field. That was the result of input from the industry but we also engaged industry members and how we exactly were going to design that field and collect the data. So those types of collaborations are ongoing and we really find them very useful.

For our annual update process for all of the stations in the locator are contacted on a once a year and it's on a monthly schedule according to state. Any station that's unresponsive, unreachable, is removed we will contact a coordinator in that area before we remove an unresponsive or unreachable station just to make sure there's not any point of contact or something like that. But we don't keep stations in the database that we can't confirm on an annual basis.

New stations and updates are added monthly as they come in so we don't have to wait until that state is scheduled. Through the year we do make those updates as they come in on a monthly basis. If you submit new stations or updates to us we will follow up directly with the station or the point of contact—that is if you're not point of contact already—to confirm the information and also to collect additional details. As you saw we have a variety of fields and information we have to collect about each station and we often have to follow up to get the full picture.

Our update schedule the database is updated once a month except for EVSE which is updated twice a month. The schedule is approximately the 15th of the month for all stations. And then the 30th of the month for that additional EVSE station. And that sort of—typically it's a few days before then but that's a general—that's generally when they're updated.

There is a verification process involved like I said so there is a lag. If you submit a station on the 14th it doesn't mean that we'll get into the system the update on the 15th. We do need to do both verify the information reach out to the station but also go through the review process.

And once again ICF doesn't update the hydrogen station data but those updates are made more on an ad hoc basis. And lastly I'll reiterate that submission to the alternate fuel price report is not the same as a station submission for the station locator. So you should be sure that you're doing both. And that's directed at coordinators of course.

So say you want to submit a new station how exactly would you go about doing that. We have two different sort of tactics depending on the number of stations you want to submit. So your first thing is that we really appreciate it if you search the locator to make sure that the station isn't already listed. And when you're doing that make sure to select that and include planned stations and include private stations.

From there if you have multiple stations to submit we'd ask that you do so through the Technical Response Service email address which is listed here and also at the end of the slide and provide us with a spreadsheet or a document or an email attached with those station updates. We can provide an Excel template for those stations so that would be if you had more than two or three stations to submit we just find it easier to do so through an excel template. So feel free to email us and we'll send you that template along and you can send it back to us.

If you just have a single station or one or two you can do that through the add a station link on the station locator. What you'll find when you're doing that is that it takes a while you have to do the stations one at a time so that's why we don't—we ask you not to submit multiple stations that way, it's just faster for both you and us. But you are welcome to use it, it is right there in the locator and feel free to use that.

As a reminder the station will not show up automatically. There is a verification process you'll get a confirmation window that'll pop up to confirm that the station has been sent to us and then we'll do our—the appropriate verification and add it in the next monthly upload. When you're submitting station details please provide as much information as you have. At the very least: fuel type, station name and location, station locator or station phone number or point of contact.

When you're submitting a station update, so that's a station that's already in the locator, that you'd like to change the details—I showed you this when we were in the station locator but use the locator to find and select the station and then you'll want to collect the More Details and edit the station to access the online form and make those changes as I demonstrated. Again the station update won't appear automatically. If it's easier for you, you are always welcome to send us an email to Technical Response Service and provide us with the information in a spreadsheet, document, or email text.

So say you want to remove a station from the database. The best way to do that is to email us again at technicalresponse@ICFI.com and specify the station name. The important thing here is that we do like to keep track of why the station went out of service or why they stopped offering the fuel. So if you could tell us that information that would be incredibly helpful.

So here's your contact information that's the Technical Response Service, email address. That email address is a catch-all for station locator updates, technical response service requests and the AFDC laws and incentives database updates and so if you send your information to there you can be confident that it's getting to the right place.

My information is here, we have a big team so you may hear from Stacy Noblet answering messages on the phone. At work Sarah Forney, Abby Brown, Alex Jamis they all do help us out with the station updates so don't be surprised if you get a question from another ICFI email address. The only thing is that we do try to use a technical response address to reach out to you guys so you have one single point of contact.

So that's all I have for now. I will take questions—I wanted to mention that this is as Sandra Loi mentioned for coordinators you can get credit for this through CCU. And the quiz will be available through the in-person training and webinar section of CCU. Sandra will send out an email with that information after—in the next few days.

In addition for everybody the recording and slides will be posted on the Clean Cities Website. So if Andrew and Stacy don't have anything additional to add we'll take the questions.

ANDREW HUDGINS: No that was wonderful Alexis thank you very much. And we'd like to open the line for questions.

COORDINATOR: All right thank you. At this time we're ready to begin a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question please press the Star1 and please record your name. To withdraw your question press Star 2.

Again press Star1 if you have a question. One moment.

And we have a question from Mr. Marshall.

MR. MARSHALL: Yes I was wondering what the bankruptcy of Ecotality will do. Will the Blink Chargers still be available, you know?

ANDREW HUDGINS: That's a good question. Our contacts in, you know, everything we've been getting from the company is the network and the stations are still up and running. NREL has a data use agreement with Ecotality where we get information from their stations from their API and so that'll be part of our automated update in the coming months.

So until we hear from them differently or, you know, something shuts off, you know, we're going to keep those stations in there as long as we can confirm that they are still functioning and available to the public.

MR. MARSHALL: Good thank you.

COORDINATOR: Once again if you have a question please press the Star 1.

Okay there are no other questions at this time.

ANDREW HUDGINS: All right well thanks and everyone, you know, thanks for joining. Alexis thank you so much for the webinar it was wonderful as always a lot of good information. And for those participants if you have questions, you know, feel free to email Technical Response and, you know, we'll get back to you as soon as possible. And if you have any suggestions for anything in the future the station locator, please let us know.

We are always like she said with a stakeholder and the industry input. We're always looking for ways to improve the data and make sure that it's really the right data that consumers and fleets and stakeholders need. So please don't hesitate to, you know, start a conversation with us.

And so have a good rest of the day. And Alexis and Stacy thank you very much. Operator, thank you very much. And attendees thank you very much and we'll talk to you later.

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